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« on: 12/02/08, 12:33:46 AM »

Talk about episode 3x12 "Our Father" here! Grin

Our Father
Airs December 8th, 2008 @ 9PM on NBC

HEROES BAND TOGETHER IN AN ATTEMPT TO PUT A STOP TO ARTHUR PETRELLI

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« Reply #1 on: 12/02/08, 11:51:57 AM »

"it's all been building to this one moment"
and yet, some many things seem to be happening!
Looks like the freaky future shown by future-peter is going to happen... no!
evil Nathan...no!
Haitian stops speaking...no!
Claire changes her hair colour...no!
The whole world is blue...why?
Seems to me that there's only one good thing in the future: Matt and Daphne are getting together!
Or are they? It's all so crazy!

you're here to kill me (papa petrelli)
So is Claire trying to finish off her grandpa? i wouldn't mind, but i don't think that she gonna make it. Or then again... we saw her in the future as a cold-blood killer. Is she going to end up like one? NOOOOOO!!!! i have to call Hiro and beg him to take me a week into the future to see the next ep!  Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: 12/02/08, 12:19:35 PM »

you're here to kill me (papa petrelli)
So is Claire trying to finish off her grandpa? i wouldn't mind, but i don't think that she gonna make it. Or then again... we saw her in the future as a cold-blood killer. Is she going to end up like one? NOOOOOO!!!! i have to call Hiro and beg him to take me a week into the future to see the next ep!  Cheesy


I don't think that he was saying it to Claire. They often edit these trailers to deliberately throw us off. I think he was talking to Peter. That trailer does show Peter with a gun.
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« Reply #3 on: 12/02/08, 12:28:58 PM »

that's what i think too
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« Reply #4 on: 12/02/08, 01:41:53 PM »

It looks like hiro to me, somebody with black hair (if you pause it)
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« Reply #5 on: 12/02/08, 07:47:16 PM »

My thoughts (having only just seen the trailer):

# We only very briefly see Sylar, and it looks like he's opening up someone's head at the time. There are no Elle sightings, and she's not listed in IMDB's credits, but then again, almost no-one is at the time of this posting.
# The shot of Peter and the Haitian walking down the hall together looked very badass. Nice.
# Who is Mohinder injecting? And with what? Looks like he's scaling out like crazy these days.
# Angela's pushing for Peter to kill who? Nathan? Arthur? I'd love to see more fights and emotional battles between Peter and Nathan (because Milo and Adrian are fantastic when they fight), but I have a feeling she's asking him to take the Haitian and go kill his own father. Which is just cruel. Send someone else, Angela. If it's so important, you take the Haitian and do it yourself. Manipulative witch.
# I totally agree with you, it looks like Arthur grabs Hiro.  Maybe Angela sends in all her little soldiers to kill Arthur: Claire, the Haitian, Hiro, and Peter.  Who knows what Matt and Daphne are up to...

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« Reply #6 on: 12/04/08, 01:13:56 PM »

Hirosfan – lol @ calling Hiro to take you a week in the future!

GoldenGait: Elle is gone. Kristen isn’t signed on for the next episodes. You can read that here: http://loyalkng.com/2008/12/02/heroes-season-3-episode-11-%E2%80%9Cthe-eclipse-part-2%E2%80%9D-review-your-the-badman/

Can’t wait to see this episode! Until then, two great reviews of this week’s episode: http://saharsblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/review-heroes-season-3-episode-11/ and http://loyalkng.com/2008/12/02/heroes-season-3-episode-11-%E2%80%9Cthe-eclipse-part-2%E2%80%9D-review-your-the-badman/
 
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« Reply #7 on: 12/05/08, 07:14:43 PM »

i don't think tanyaB was saying your comment was stupid, i think she was complimenting it for being funny.
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« Reply #8 on: 12/05/08, 07:31:05 PM »

whos that guy??the one with the chair.
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« Reply #9 on: 12/06/08, 12:30:14 PM »

one thing that you'll see a lot on message boards in english is lol (laugh out loud), meaning they found it funny.
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« Reply #10 on: 12/09/08, 12:37:58 AM »

Really enjoyed this episode!  This season has been very solid.  I'll post my thoughts in a minute! Grin
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« Reply #11 on: 12/09/08, 12:46:47 AM »

Our father, who art in Heroes, hallowed be thy name. Thy Kring-dom come, thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven. Give us this Monday, our daily episode. And forgive us our fangeekiness, as we forgive those who fangeek against us. And lead us not into boring storylines, but deliver us from reality TV. For thine is the Kring-dom, and the Powers, and the glory. For ever and ever, AmeNBC.

What a great episode about dads. We've got HRG, the new father, unsure of his role in his baby daughter's life. We've got Kaito Nakamura, unloving, with no faith in his son. And we have Arthur Petrelli, Nathan and Peter's father and... maybe Sylar's as well? We have Peter on his way to kill his father, we have Nathan changing teams to side with his father, and we have Sylar murdering people in order to question his "father". Very nice dovetailing of all the characters and storylines.

I started thinking early on (before HRG's mind games) that Sylar was not a Petrelli. I thought that it was too convenient (and cool!) a plot twist for it to be real. I'm glad he's back to being evil, because I like him best that way, but I can't believe they let him kill Elle! And wow, did she ever die. Sliced open (which technically wasn't necessary: he already had her power, he could have killed her in a million different ways, really), and then torched with her own ability. That's got to sting. Still, she was an awesome character, and if they'd played her right she could have been the greatest thing to come out of the second season. Or rather, the only good thing to come out of the season. Still, I think she rocked. RIP.

My Fairy Godmother watched the episode with me this week, and as Claire met her mother 16 years in the past, she said, "Wouldn't that just be the weirdest thing?" Claire was really cute holding... herself. The special effects were fantastic with Sandra Bennet, too: she looked so young! I really liked this storyline--it was the first time in a long time I've been really entertained by Claire. And HRG didn't have his glasses yet! Jack Coleman did a great job in this episode, cornering Bonnie!Claire and insisting she spill the beans about who she really is. Was. Whatever. I've always thought it was uber-cute that Claire was the one who picked out those glasses for him. And now I'm loving the fact that she gave herself her own nickname. How sweet was that scene? This is the way I like HRG and Claire. They have really wonderful father-daughter chemistry together.

I'm loving the fact that Sylar stood up to Arthur and used his contacts to go collect a bunch of powers. Sue Landers... or Sarah Palin? Anyway, she lasted a very short time. Smart move on Sylar's part: find someone with the ability to detect lies, and then go question "Daddy" about his parentage. And boy howdy, when Sylar falls off the wagon, he really takes a flying leap off the back, doesn't he? Murdering Sue, smirking about cake, and taking out the rest of Sue's coworkers. With a smile. Creepy. Very cool, though.

Cook!Hiro was hysterical! Masi Oka is an amazing actor--most adult actors who try to act like a kid don't succeed even a little bit. He was wonderful as he eavesdropped from the other room. And one of the best, most poignant scenes of the whole season was Hiro receiving the light from his mother and missing her last moments as he looked down at his glowing hands. In essence, Hiro went back in time to kill his mother. Very sad. But very well done.

Love that Ando immediately decided he was going to be the one to get a power, be a time traveler, and save Hiro. Because we've seen the power that he ends up getting... and what he does with it. That future Hiro saw was not Ando using his ability to save him, it was him using his ability to kill him.

Angela is a piece of work, sending her powerless son to kill her mass-murdering husband. Here, honey, go get more psychologically screwed up. Don't come back without his head. Arthur's face as he realized Peter had brought a gun and the Haitian was priceless. I liked that Arthur was so powerful that he busted through the Haitian's ability enough to disable him for a sizeable chunk of time. Which, really, probably contributed to his downfall: if the Haitian hadn't been completely drained he probably could have dampened Sylar enough to prevent him from killing his non-Daddy. Actually... that might not have done much, considering Peter was willing to pull the trigger anyway. So no, nevermind. Arthur was going down that day no matter what. I loved Sylar's kiss-off at the end of the scene: "I'm not going to kill you, Peter. You don't have anything I need anymore." Ouch. Burn.

So now Sylar is the only multi-power person running around? Who is second in command at Pinehearst? Nathan? He'd be up against Angela and Primatech. I'm also assuming Sylar is now completely unattached, with no ties or allegiance to anyone. Which is always more fun with this particular character. I'm also wondering how Hiro is going to get back from the past, and where did Arthur pop Claire to? Uber!Soldier is an interesting idea, but I'm not overly impressed. I'm hoping Nathan, Tracy, and Mohinder don't pump up the rest of that group before the Primatech people can get in there to stop them...

Bits and Pieces:

    * Best line of the whole episode: "Less talking. More watching." Followed by the equally hysterical: "Should I stay with me, or go with you?"
    * Hayden Panettiere's wig didn't look too bad this week. Good job, Hair and Make-up.
    * Didn't like the elevator scene with Sylar and the poor (really attractive) office worker. We didn't need that. It wasn't funny, and it stuck out oddly.
    * Light emanated out of Arthur when he died. I thought he'd put the Light into the Power Goop. He still had it? Where did it go? Into Peter? Into oblivion?
    * Too bad they're sticking all those scales on Mohinder. Sendhil is gorgeous, and I don't want him to turn into a giant lizard.

Addendum: No disrespect to Christianity intended--I was brought up saying the Our Father prayer every night before bed, and for the past week since I saw what tonight's episode title was going to be, it's been rolling around in my head all day every day. Just had to include it at the start of this post!

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« Reply #12 on: 12/09/08, 12:56:06 AM »

Wow another awesome review GG!  Never mind posting my own thoughts, I pretty much agree with everything you wrote.  Love the little prayer too, hilarious! Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: 12/09/08, 08:41:46 AM »

I liked this episode, but at the same time I didn't.  A lot of things kinda/sorta bugged me for some reason.

I think the thing I don't like the most is that for once . . . JUST ONCE . . . I'd like for Hiro to actually succeed at what he sets out to do.  He's the only one of the group who really wanted to be special and do good with it and yet he keeps goofing up.

Now before I get jumped on, let me lay out my reasoning:
1) Didn't really save the world in the first season.  He didn't really stop Sylar.  He stabbed Sylar, who eventually "got better" anyway.  But Sylar whooshes him away, so Hiro teleports . . . 600 years into the past.  He didn't stop the explosion of New York, Nathan did.
2) Second season was such a convoluted mess, but let's face it.  He basically created the villain (Adam) of the season.
3) Is a complete man-child, disobeys his dad's last words and opens the safe allowing the formula to get stolen not once, but twice.
4) Gets captured by Angela
5) Releases Adam only to lose him almost immediately
6 Gets caught by Arthur
7) Talks his dying mother (extremely touching scene, by the way - LOVED IT) into giving him the light and vowed to protect it, only to lose it AND his powers to Arthur moments later.

I love Hiro because, like Seth Green's character said, it's the belief that even an office drone can do something special.  But c'mon writers!  Let him actually accomplish something . . . on his own.  Maybe I'm too nearsighted and someone can correct me, but that's just how I feel right now.  Okay, okay . . . he DID get the sword.  Where the heck is that thing this season anyway?  Coming into play next episode maybe?

But another thing that bugs me is that to stop Peter from exploding in season one - and now Arthur- it's been said that shooting them in the base of the skull is the only way to stop them.  Yet each time the shots have been aimed at the forehead.  Is there a difference?  And if the bullet is removed from Arthur's head, will he heal like Claire did in season one when that stick was removed from her head?  So I'm thinking he might not be "completely" dead, just "mostly" dead - as Miracle Max would say.

And the last thing to bug me for the episode (then I'll shut up  Cheesy) is the contents of the lost 9th Wonders.  In Season 1 Isaac told Sylar that he has seen how Sylar gets killed and he has already sent the drawings to the publisher.  We were led to beleive that it was the drawings he just gave the bike messenger.  But now, we're told those drawings didn't even make it to the publisher and they now seem to depict something else entirely.
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« Reply #14 on: 12/09/08, 09:02:27 AM »

does Clair wear a wig? how come?
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