Season 3

[Grim Reapster]

Peter...just stop.  Take a breather and think about you're character.  Its just dumb.  He's a cat loving little girl.  Someone said it before, but peter has no right to complain about his new power.  you asked for it, and you begged for it, hell you even told him you would take it from him by force.  he gave it to you reluctantly and then apologized for it afterwards, even saying he would never wish it on anyone!  Get over yourself peter...God he is just such an idiot...everything about him he's just retarded.  he never thinks things through or ever uses common sense...ever and it drives me nuts!  He deserves to have his powers taken away and deserves to be locked up for a while!  He annoyed me so much this episode!  More than usual!

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel....

You do realize that Milo can only do what the writers write for him....right? You're calling a fictional character retarded, when it's the writers that you should be venting on.

And by the way...what's wrong with being a cat lover?

[Niwdog]

WOW! My favourite episode ever! The ending was just too sweet.

And I agree with the person who said that Arthur is a great Villain and is like Magneto/Kingpin. I'm feeling that too, he really is. He's become the New Sylar to me. Of course though, Sylar will always be the Greatest Villain of all time to me; next to T-Bag in Prison Break  .

I'm also surprised that Adam was brought back just to get the life sucked out of him by Arthur. I was quite shocked by that. I never saw that coming. I thought Arthur would just use his blood to heal him or something. However, Arthur's condition .... er... remind me to continue this another time. I don't have time to complete it right now lol.

[GoldenGait]

The puppet man scene was excellent.  That whole character was great, and I loved that he had nothing to do with the overall story arc or mythology of heroes.  WE could take a break from the convaluted storyline of viruses and formulas and just enjoy our heroes and family dealing with a villan.  It reminded me of the Monster of the Week episodes of the X files. 
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I love that Hiro is back to being Hiro!  For a while there, I was really starting to tire of him because he didn't have that comic relief that we love about him
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He's a cat loving little girl. 

Whoa whoa whoa.  Cats are fabulous, and I'm definitely a girl who loves them.  ;-)  I have no problem with "cat loving little girls" but I do agree with what I think your overall sentiment was: Peter's losing his mind. 

The return of comic relief Hiro WAS fabulous!

And yes, that's a perfect way to describe the Puppet Man interlude.  A monster of the week episode of X-Files.  Great analogy!!  It WAS great to have that break from the overall mythology and just see some cool, emotional scenes with some great actresses and a great power from a Level 5 villain.

GG

[Miguel_kiai]

Yes, great episode! Made me a believer again!

Most important thing:
Now we have a real villain, I wanna see who gonna stop Arthur Petrelli now.

[D Rok]

just to clarify, the cat loving comment is in no way meant to offend anyone who likes cats the animal...its a play on words to allude to a word that I cannot use here on the forum...

Think about things that you call cats:

cat
Kitty cat
Kitty
Kitten
P****

get it? 

[Limping Rocket]

I agree, by far the best episode this season!

I was gonna write more on this episode. But then I realized that u guys already said everything. Concerning Hiro/Ando, Hiro in Africa, Adam's death, Peter/Sylar, Puppet Master, Arthur.

Did u see the preview for Episode 7? Aaaah , I can't wait!!!

[Grim Reapster]

Now we have a real villain, I wanna see who gonna stop Arthur Petrelli now.

I agree, Arthur Petrelli is already a much better villain than Sylar ever was. Sylar's okay as a murdering sociopath, but Arthur is more of your classic comic book villain....Like the Kingpin.

As for who can stop him, we need to know who stopped him before. Someone (probably Angela) put him in that hospital bed. Though I'm sure that they were trying to kill him.

[xcessev]

another great heroes episode!!  i really REALLY liked this one and have already re-watched it multiple times on my DVR.  maybe it was the absence of maya...or the introduction of arthur...or the whole creepy puppet master scene, but this was my favorite episode of season 3 so far

so this isn't a recap of the episode as there are already great reviews on this thread...but just a few of my thoughts:

WHAT I LIKED

• the shocks - adam monroe dead before the first commercial break? WHA?! peter losing all of his powers?  to his FATHER?!  whew, this show was jam packed with surprises and great cliffhangers.  (c'mon now, TELL ME that nathan and tracy can overpower suresh!)  there were a few moments that actually had me gaping at the tv!
• the suspense - okay, in addition to me being slackjawed during some of the show, there were some scenes that had my heart racing... namely, anything with creepy ERIC DOYLE the puppetmaster.  geez, maybe i'm not as savvy as all of the other viewers, but i was seriously engrossed in this storyline and wasn't sure at all what was going to happen! the acting in the scene was truly brilliant.  sandra did a great job of being the normal mom trying to be a believable distraction and then protecting her daughter.  meredith's words were delivered exceptionally well.  from the "go to hell!' being forced out of her mouth...to the contrived "i promise i will love you forever".  and claire's tears...whew, the emotion was just ripping at me! not to mention that all of their physical 'marionette' moves were so on point that it made the danger of the scene even more believable.
• the normalcy of it all - hahhaha, this is actually pretty funny to me because so many of the new frontline characters are so comfortable regarding everyone's abilities.  (unlike the first season where it would take an army to convince someone that superpowers existed!)

- Daphne = "he's a precog." *eye roll* "someone that could see the future"
- Sandra = "one of us, one of them, right?" *without breaking a stride* "i'm the 'one of us'"

• utusa - he's awesome!  i think that we have a lot to learn from this character and am so excited that he isn't being left in africa.

WHAT I DISLIKED

• Mohinder!  please, please, please eliminate his SOON from any future storylines.  at this point he is beyond saving and the only thing that i will miss about him is *maybe* his narrations...actually, nope.  i wouldn't miss those either
• not a major dislike, but i definitely want to caution the writers with what they are doing with hiro's character.  i've always loved hiro and yes, i agree, that he is the main comic relief of the entire show...BUT, there is a fine line between making him funny and just making his seem like a downright fool.  i mean really, after 3 years of saving the world, doesn't hiro seem to still be utterly clueless?  look at claire, she is evolving into her powers, whereas hiro seems to be dumbing himself down.  please don't let him just be the guy with the jokes...i'd love to see hiro with some substance.

UNANSWERED QUESTIONS/INTERESTING TWISTS

• what does primatech have on daphne and why is she too scared to leave?
• who is the fourth 'villain' in utusa's painting?  (arthur, knox, and the blue fire guy have already been identified)
• what the hell happened to dr. zimmerman?!?  are you telling me that tracy got the scoop from him and then just quietly left his house to find answers?  why wouldn't she scream bloody murder and cause a ruckus?  you know, something along the lines of, "WHAT IN HADES NAME HAVE YOU DONE TO ME YOU CRAZY MAD SCIENTIST?!"  especially the fact that she has tons of political connections i'm just surprised how she would decide to jump off a bridge rather than start a worldwide investigation.
• primatech vs. pinehearst!  angela vs. arthur!  peter vs. sylar!  need i say more

[GoldenGait]

• what does primatech have on daphne and why is she too scared to leave?
• who is the fourth 'villain' in utusa's painting?
  
• what the hell happened to dr. zimmerman?!?  
  
  

Ooh, good question.  Just speculation (I'm staying well away from spoilers this season--it's just too good to spoil): she's committed quite a bit of corporate espionage, grand theft, breaking and entering, and you could probably make a case for accessory to several other acts including murder, assault, and battery.  She could feasibly go to jail for the rest of her speedy little life at this point.  More probable is that she's got family in trouble, kidnapped, or just threatened with death and dismemberment.  A sister, a mother, a little brother, an aging grandmother Sophie back in Paris who depends on Daphne to buy her heart medication... whatever.  I'm quite curious now!

Also good questions: the 4th villain and the magical, disappearing Dr. Zimmerman.  I completely forgot about him...

And one more question: if Nathan's power was induced scientifically AFTER BIRTH, did it affect his genotype or just his phenotype?  Going back to Darwinian methods of inheritance (assuming these rules still apply in gifted people), any changes made to Nathan (acquiring abilities, working out and getting muscular, etc.) after birth wouldn't affect his gametes and therefore couldn't be passed on to his offspring.  So did Claire get all her abilities from Meredith?  Or might Nathan have had a recessive kind of ability gene from the Petrelli line that he passed to Claire, but in himself had to be activated by Zimmerman in order to express a power?

GG[/list]

[Miguel_kiai]

• what does primatech have on daphne and why is she too scared to leave?

It isn't Primatech, but Pinehearst that have something on Daphne

The episode was great, I don't know about you guys, but I missed Peter kickin some ass when he invaded Pinehearst. I mean, when he openned the door, and all the villains we're surprized, I was like:
Shock Flint, Throw Dapnhe out the window telekinetically! when Knox gets strong with the villains fear, kick his ass with super strenght AND superspeed! Make Maury pretend he's a monkey with Eden's power. Then and, only then, speak to your father!!!


OOOOh I wish Arthur took a Little longer to talk to Peter... 

[Grim Reapster]

The episode was great, I don't know about you guys, but I missed Peter kickin some ass when he invaded Pinehearst. I mean, when he openned the door, and all the villains we're surprized, I was like:
Shock Flint, Throw Dapnhe out the window telekinetically! when Knox gets strong with the villains fear, kick his ass with super strenght AND superspeed! Make Maury pretend he's a monkey with Eden's power. Then and, only then, speak to your father!!!


OOOOh I wish Arthur took a Little longer to talk to Peter... 

That's exactly what I was thinking. It looked like Peter was finally going to unleash Hell on someone's ass. But then Arthur took all the wind right out of his sails.

When he burst into the room, I was thinking that Flint and Knox didn't stand a chance. Especially since Peter has already absorbed both of their powers; And has already begun using Flints. But then Arthur put a stop to it with just a word.

And now lord knows when Peter's going to get his powers back. I'm just afraid that he'll only get his original power back, and have to start from square one. He was finally to the point where he was able to control his abilities.

[Miguel_kiai]

And now lord knows when Peter's going to get his powers back. I'm just afraid that he'll only get his original power back, and have to start from square one. He was finally to the point where he was able to control his abilities.

Yeah, I have the same fear, Actually a strong guess that's exactly what they'll do! have peter starting from square because he was too powerfull, and the writers were having problems to create challenges to him...


but I just can't stop loving the idea of a all powerfull Arthur Petrelli... let's just hope they don't use something as obivious as the haitian to Stop Petrelli Senior!

[Limping Rocket]

• not a major dislike, but i definitely want to caution the writers with what they are doing with hiro's character.  i've always loved hiro and yes, i agree, that he is the main comic relief of the entire show...BUT, there is a fine line between making him funny and just making his seem like a downright fool.  i mean really, after 3 years of saving the world, doesn't hiro seem to still be utterly clueless?  look at claire, she is evolving into her powers, whereas hiro seems to be dumbing himself down.  please don't let him just be the guy with the jokes...i'd love to see hiro with some substance.

I think he's gonna learn that from Usutsu.

[Miguel_kiai]

One last consideration on the episode:

It's been shown (or hinted) that Sylar ability let's him know what is someone's power and how it works, just by analizing (looking) someone. Peter (in the episode) Had Sylar's ability, so he should be able to know what Arthur's power was. Still he let him touch him! How dumb and emotional can this Peter be??? he had several reason NOT to trust his father specially knowing about his "power draining" touch-dependent ability:

1- he was suspicious Arthur was the one who paralised Angela
2- Arthur was recruting known criminals and villains

ALL he had to do is try to read his mind!!!!!   
 

[Grim Reapster]

One last consideration on the episode:

It's been shown (or hinted) that Sylar ability let's him know what is someone's power and how it works, just by analizing (looking) someone. Peter (in the episode) Had Sylar's ability, so he should be able to know what Arthur's power was. Still he let him touch him! How dumb and emotional can this Peter be??? he had several reason NOT to trust his father specially knowing about his "power draining" touch-dependent ability:

1- he was suspicious Arthur was the one who paralised Angela
2- Arthur was recruting known criminals and villains

ALL he had to do is try to read his mind!!!!!   

I don't think that Sylar can tell what someone's power is by looking at them. The first time that he encountered Claire he mistakenly grabbed the wrong girl. He didn't realize his mistake until Claire started to heal.

As for Peter, I think that he was too stunned by the fact that his Father was alive to consider that he was a threat. Imagine that you enter a room expecting to confront some bad guys, but instead you find your Father that you believed dead. It would kind of throw you for a loop, making rational thought difficult.

Remember that Peter grew up his whole life without knowing that there was anything unusual about either one of his parents. The idea that they could pose a threat to him is still a new concept. He only recently started to see his Mother for who she really is.

As for reading Arthur's mind...I don't think that he'd be able to. Arthur seems to have his own telepathic abilities already.