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« Reply #30 on: 04/30/09, 12:20:11 PM »

So what do you think they did with the real Nathan's body?

They're probably keeping it on ice for now. Somewhere in building 26.

Once Sythan starts to suspect that he might not be who he thinks, he's probably going to go looking for answers. I think it would be a great scene for Nathan to pull open a drawer in some secret morgue, only to see himself looking back up.

Besides maybe Peter could absorb Baby touch and go's power, touch Nathan and make him 'Go' again. It seems to me that, in time, little Matt may have the power of life and death in his hand.... Wink
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« Reply #31 on: 05/01/09, 02:31:58 AM »

So what do you think they did with the real Nathan's body?

I don't know why, but i have the feeling that they would've took it to Coyote Sands. Thought i can't really see why...
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« Reply #32 on: 05/04/09, 02:06:01 PM »

I have to say this episode really disappointed me with the exception of Hiro.  His courage and yearning to do what's right no matter what the cost to him personally is what keeps me coming back to this show.  It's HIS wellfare that I'm concerned about and that's really all.  The ending made me feel sorry for no one other than him and the teaser made me aggravated that Sylar could possibly jump out so soon after being subdued.  You would THINK Matt's power could have wiped his memory permanently.

Other than that, what a let down. 
A) We were denied, yet again, the big showdown between Sylar and Peter.
B) The regretable loophole of Claire's healing blood being able to save Nathan is sorely overlooked. 
C) Using Sylar as the supposedly ONLY option they had to keep things quiet when you just KNOW it's gonna backfire on them in a major, MAJOR way. 
D) Matt lost Daphne just weeks ago (heck probably only ONE week) and he's running back to his wife?  Must not have meant much in the first place.

I mean, I just don't get how the writers can be so blind?  I know they were wanting to put a limit on what everyone could do (except Sylar for some reason), but they couldn't seem to do ANYTHING in the right context or in a manner that made sense.  And THAT's why I'm practically giving up on the show.  When they turned Sylar into Nathan I said to myself, "That's it.  I'm done."  Why?  Because it was SO incredibly stupid.  I've given the show a lot of slack over the last two years, but this is almost the straw that broke the camel's back.  Will I watch next season?  Maybe a few episodes to see where they take it, but they'd better move quick.

The ONE thing that bugs me, especially on this forum is the fact that many people bemoan the fact that Peter got all of Sylar's powers, or that he was too powerful in the past.  But I hear very little about Sylar getting too powerful.  He's been nigh unbeatable for three seasons now and each new power he obtains only increases what he can do exponentially.  Especially the shapeshifing power which NOW allowed him to shift the spot that kills him permanently to God knows where.  Where's the outcry that HE'S too powerful?  That HE needs to be taken down a notch?  To be honest, I think it's getting a little rediculous how powerful they're allowing him to become AND that the writers can't bring themselves to kill him off and come up with another baddie.  Lack of imagination, if you ask me.

Which brings me to another small gripe.  In the very beginning, we were told that our heroes could and probably more than a few WOULD die and I've been bracing myself for this since the first season.  But the fact is that only real deaths we've had so far are minor characters.  The "stars" just haven't had to face that death permanently yet.  Isaac and his girlfriend are dead, DH is dead, and Daphne.  I really think that's it.  Each other death has been conveniently avoided or side-stepped thanks to an "evil twin" situation or Claire's blood and NOW with Sylar masquerading as Nathan.  Nathan's permanently dead (so we think - there's no stopping Claire from giving him a few drops yet) but not really (AKA Adrian Pasdar still has a job).

That said, I probably WILL tune in for Season 4 if for no other reason than to see what happens to Hiro.  But that's about it.
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« Reply #33 on: 05/04/09, 10:57:35 PM »

Had tried to start a new topic but am guessing that
is disabled for a few posts to stop spambots.

Anyways a few things concerned me about the ending.

They could not possibly think that this would be stable
and that Sylar as Nathan wouldn't at the least realize
that he wasn't Nathan.

Sylar/Nathan cuts himself shavingand heals in seconds?
Well if truly has all of Nathans memories he would remember
that Sylar and Claire were the two with that power.

Sylar/Nathan goes to fly and can't?

Any of the other powers might also be accidently unleashed.
Hmmm I thing the lie detection is automatic so that is
another way for him to get suspicious.
When the good Heroes lie to  him to assuage his concerns, he
will figure it out.

I don't know.  Maybe they simply want him to cover for Nathan
until he is healed. Then the ploy only working for a short
while would make sense. They were concerned about the
government finding out a Senator was killed by a Special.

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« Reply #34 on: 05/05/09, 04:49:16 PM »

Had tried to start a new topic but am guessing that
is disabled for a few posts to stop spambots.

Anyways a few things concerned me about the ending.

They could not possibly think that this would be stable
and that Sylar as Nathan wouldn't at the least realize
that he wasn't Nathan.

Sylar/Nathan cuts himself shavingand heals in seconds?
Well if truly has all of Nathans memories he would remember
that Sylar and Claire were the two with that power.

Sylar/Nathan goes to fly and can't?

Any of the other powers might also be accidently unleashed.
Hmmm I thing the lie detection is automatic so that is
another way for him to get suspicious.
When the good Heroes lie to  him to assuage his concerns, he
will figure it out.

I don't know.  Maybe they simply want him to cover for Nathan
until he is healed. Then the ploy only working for a short
while would make sense. They were concerned about the
government finding out a Senator was killed by a Special.


Just to confirm about the flying thing- just before Sylar killed Nathan, he flew in from the window. He took Nathan's power through empathy, or some think that he was using telekinesis to project himself or whatever. I don't think that's a terribly big concern.

A lot of people are saying that it's an incredibly stupid and un-thought-out plan to have Sylar being Nathan. But remember, the whole thing was Angela Petrelli's idea. She usually has a reason for doing all the crazy things that she does, or there's some ulterior motive or other plot brewing. She probably saw something in the future that had to happen as a result of this.

I'm sure it was already pretty obvious that Sylar would work out that he's Nathan, or Nathan work out that he's Sylar (however you want to phrase it), but the writers confirmed that the actor that plays Sylar (Zachary Quinto) WILL be back next season.

Something that bugged me about the season finale- and the whole volume for that matter- was Matt's ever expanding powers. He can erase memories and personalities now with telepathy? That's REALLY pushing it...but whatever, I guess there are worse things that could have happened. They could use him like they used to use the Haitian for erasing memories...hmmmm....
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« Reply #35 on: 05/06/09, 06:02:55 AM »

Remember, Matt's dad told him that whatever the mind can do, he'll be able to control.  So wiping out memories is not that big of a stretch.  I personally think that the Haitian would have been a better choice for erasing the memories as his power seems more permanent.   THEN bring Matt in to do the rest. 

I disagree on Angela's dream.  The only thing she said was that in her dream, it was Matt who saved Nathan and that her dreams could not be altered.  WHY?  That still makes no sense.  They should have just let Claires blood be the cure-all one last time, saved Nathan, killed off Sylar and that be the end of it.  Start off fresh in Season 4. 

I do have to ask you, though.  Why do the heroes' powers increasing bother you so much, but Sylar's ever-growing nigh unstoppable power grabbing doesn't?  This is what bothers me.  The more he stays around and takes other's powers, the more powerful he becomes, the less likely he'll be able to be stopped.  And unless the writers give our heroes more common sense like they finally seemed to display in this finale . . .

Why am I the only one who seems to be concerned with Sylar?  Why can't the writer's come up with anther bad guy?  Sure they had Arthur for a while, but his power was basically the same as Sylar's and Sylar weasled his way into surviving yet again.
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« Reply #36 on: 05/06/09, 04:02:20 PM »

I do have to ask you, though.  Why do the heroes' powers increasing bother you so much, but Sylar's ever-growing nigh unstoppable power grabbing doesn't?  This is what bothers me.  The more he stays around and takes other's powers, the more powerful he becomes, the less likely he'll be able to be stopped.  And unless the writers give our heroes more common sense like they finally seemed to display in this finale . . .

Why am I the only one who seems to be concerned with Sylar?  Why can't the writer's come up with anther bad guy?  Sure they had Arthur for a while, but his power was basically the same as Sylar's and Sylar weasled his way into surviving yet again.

You're not the only one. I've been complaining about Sylar being ridiculously over powered for awhile now, but unfortunately there are way too many Sylar fans that disagree with me...on this forum anyway.

When Peter was fully powered, the Sylar fans bitched and moaned that he was too powerful, but they have no problem with Sylar's continued rise towards God-hood. There's this huge double standard here that says that Sylar can continue to grow stronger and stronger, while Peter needs to be neutered. God forbid that they should be evenly matched.... Roll Eyes

And you're right that it's about time for a new villain. Someone that the good guys actually have a chance to stop. Not that they would kill them; The few times in the show that Sylar was at someone's mercy, they foolishly let him live. You'd expect something like that from Angela since she's a bit twisted and evil herself, but there's no excuse for HRG not killing Sylar while he had the chance. Which leads me to the conclusion that all of the good guys are idiots.

Personally I thought they should have killed him off at the end of the first season.... Angry

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« Reply #37 on: 05/07/09, 08:41:59 AM »

Sadly, though, Noah DID kill Sylar during the eclipse.  I thought that was it, but no.  End of eclipse, powers came back, Sylar healed up and . . .

They really should have just lopped his head off, incinerated the body and spread the ashes all over the globe (a little here, a little there). 

Don't get me wrong.  I love what Zach Quinto has done with the character.  He has truly made Sylar one of the BEST villains of all time.  BUT his time is up.  At least for a while.  Give him a season or two break and bring him back with a bang (a HOLY SH*T moment).  But to keep dragging him out over three seasons is a little too much.

Here's how they should have done things at the finale  Grin
Bring the Haitian in, have Ando supercharge his power so he can wipe the memory of everyone in the building at the same time.   Nathan's really dead, they don't want to bring him back, fine.  But keep him there and have Matt manipulate the reporters and investigators into thinking something else entirely happened (not a "special" murdering a Senator - heck even frame Danko for it since Sylar did the legwork of framing him anyway AND since Danko was gonna turn on HRG if Hiro hadn't stopped him).  Then do the whole lopping off Sylar's head thing.  THEN make a fresh start in Season 4.

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