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Emiko Ishimura
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« Reply #1 on: 04/20/09, 08:34:00 PM » |
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I'd like to start off by saying I was totally caught unprepared for tonight's episode by the relative calmness of the last one. This was a mindblower. Point-form review as usual: 1. This is probably the second time we see Sylar experiencing difficulties with a newly acquired ability, this time it's a problem from the inside. It's kind of relieving to see Sylar's imperfections at times. 2. At Baldy's (I forgot his name) house, Sylar does his "sudden appearance" trick again. Although this time it's much clearer that Sylar simply knows how to sneak around unnoticed. (ie: He can not teleport, he's just badass) 3. I didn't really see the point of Sylar acquiring a new ability. Apparently the writers didn't either, as they fed Sylar an ability he didn't really need. It wasn't as dangerous as Baldy made it out to be. I mean, can you accidentally rub your fingers while concentrating an an object? I suppose the free ability had to be somewhat useless or else everyone (maybe even me included) would complain about needlessly further overpowering Sylar. 4. Sylar meets Micah: I pretty much already knew that Micah wouldn't die. As a rule, children don't die on TV. By that I absolutely do not mean I would like to see children dying (I do not), but that knowledge kind of kills any suspense that we were supposed to experience. Kind of strange to see Micah regarding Sylar as a potential hero from the viewer's point of view, but it makes sense. Ability-wise, Sylar is a walking tank that needs to be put to use. But this makes me think about Micah's suggestion that Sylar mimic Nathan to become President. In this timeline, could Sylar masquerade as President Petrelli without being a villain, as opposed to the fake Nathan we saw in Five Years Gone? At the moment all signs point to no, but Micah's suggestion for Sylar to help the "specials" by becoming President seemed to perk Sylar's attention. 5. Sylar shapeshifting back and forth between his mom and himself: really creepy, but also kinds of shows his repressed side in a really creepy split-personality kind of way. Thanks to this ability, we can really see into Sylar's (twisted) mind. 6. Hiro and Ando: I was so relieved to see the two on the show again. Again the partner vs partner rivalry comes up, which is still potentially leading to the future where Ando attacks Hiro. And I say "attack" instead of "seems to attack" because Ando was firing his red lightning in the style which he used to attack the agents in a few episodes back, also Hiro was pushed backwards by the force of the beam. And didn't Hiro stay lying down while Ando picked up the formula and left? If Ando was supercharging Hiro, he would have grabbed on. Anyways back on track. Kind of neato to see Hiro learning how to freeze time while leaving some people unfrozen. One step closer to becoming Future Hiro. And it's becoming really obvious that Hiro should never ignore Ando and should never leave him to be a sidekick, as Hiro's original plan of pretending to be an agent (with glasses?!) would have backfired horribly. Good call for Ando being quick to react before Hiro got tasered. And what's up with Hiro's ability suddenly causing a bloody nose?  7. There was a commercial with Eric Doyle (apparently) using his abilities on people in an office building he appeared to be working with. What was that about? I wasn't paying attention. 8. The episode's ending: oh boy.... Danko is fu..... (hint: rhymes vaguely with 'firetrucked'). +Bonus points for Danko's "Ooohhh... sh-" expression. 9. I think it's pretty sure that Nathan will die next week. Which kind of shoots down my hopes of Sylar becoming Nathan with good intentions. |
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« Reply #2 on: 04/20/09, 08:42:14 PM » |
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Wow!! Creepy/Cool! Tonight's episode was awsome!! The Hiro & Ando scenes were great, it was nice to see Ando and Hiro start to come together as a duo, instead of a Hero & sidekick. And how awesome were the Slyar & Mom scenes? At first I thought she was a figment of his imagination, but when they showed him morphing from his Mom to Sylar and back again, it just blew me away! Talk about a Norman Bates moment! Intresting that morphing into someone comes with a wardrobe change, I was wondering about that, and now I know. Another point was that Sylar does need to touch someone to morph into them, that was why he needed Nathan's travel toothbrush, and also why he want's to shake the president's hand. I was also shocked when those agents shot Rebel, I thought they were just going to trank him, so that took me completly by suprise, even though I knew it was Sylar. I didn't even mind the banter in the Coyote Sands Coffee Shop so much. I've been thinking about it, and I feel I may have been too critical of last weeks episode, so I've decided to give the Patrellis(?) another chance. The final scenes were killer, with Mohinder, Noah, Claire & Angela getting caught, and that final scene with Danko tranking Nathan (twice), and then killing Sylar, only to have Sylar rise up and pull the knife out of the back of his head was way cool. The perfect cliffhanger to one of the most perfect episodes yet. (btw, I think that when Sylar was morphing back and forth, he managed to shift his "kill" spot to another location, maybe a little to the left or right. Either that or he truly has become unstopable). There are really only two questions in my mind right now...
1. What is up with Hiro's power?
2. Is next week's season final a 2 hour show? (I hope!)
Anyway, an excellent (if somewhat darker than usual) episdoe. I'll give it a 9.5!!!
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« Reply #4 on: 04/20/09, 10:21:38 PM » |
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Loved this episode...probably more than the rest. Granted, it didn't feature prominent roles for all the main characters, but it was still great. I also like that we've finally made it an entire season without knowing ahead of time what's at stake. Instead of building up to an event we've been anticipating for months, we're given organized chaos. Anything is fair game. All we know are the characters' intentions. That's it, and I love it.
And now some thoughts.
- Holy retcon Batman! Someone explain how Sylar survived. It wouldn't take much, just say her perfected the healing ability. Or maybe the blade didn't go deep enough. Or maybe Sylar was truly motivated for once in his life, and summoned the adrenaline and strength to pick himself up. Just give us an explanation.
- I think Sylar might finally realize what's going to happen if he kills people with abilities. Loneliness. Take Micah for example. Here is a kid who is willing to help Sylar, simply because they're the "same". Now Sylar knows there are people in the world really trying to help him, not just have a mutual agreement to use each other. He ruined his life by killing his mother, he's going nuts, and he has one more chance to find some companionship. Perhaps that's why he turns to Claire. She can't die, he can't die, so there's a good chance those two will outlive everyone else.
- I'm still not ready to believe Nathan is dead. He's public enemy #1, and has been on fan hit lists since season one, yet he's survived. Every time he's put into a life-threatening situation in which he's guaranteed to die, he survives. He's like Teflon; nothing sticks. He's Superman. I think it stems from him being the most obvious to die. Nathan is extremely good at shaking things up for everyone, and until both his credibility and will to govern are gone he won't be leaving.
- I'm curious to see if Danko survives. He's a jerk, he's still not quite the major player like he could be, but he's lasted this long. Will they kill him off, or will we see him return next season? Perhaps Sylar will find a way for Danko to lose his position in the agency, leaving the door wide-open at everyone's favorite paper company.
- I hate to say this, but maybe Hiro needs to get his ass kicked by Ando. If he keeps this up, I can't say that I blame Ando for "killing" Hiro in the future. Regardless, I'm praying this sets-up a rivalry between the two. Kind of like what they teased early on with Daphne and Hiro. Batman vs. Superman. Of course that would require Hiro setting Ando up again, since they now have a partnership (a true one this time).
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« Reply #5 on: 04/20/09, 10:22:06 PM » |
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Shoot, I had hoped to be the first to post on this episode! BTW- wasn't that bald guy Ron Howard's brother?
Also, that Eric Doyle thing is some kind of mini-episode on the Heroes site (I guess, I can't access it from my house as I'm still stuck with a 56k dail-up modem. Which also may be the reason why I wasn't the first to post!) It looked like Heroes meets The Office.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll definitely have to check that out sometime. And now that I've calmed down over tonight's episode, I think I can give a few things that I didn't like about the episode. 1. Sylar's shape-shifting now includes clothing? Add Sylar's explanation that he can absorb other people's DNA to the confusion, I'm not aware that clothing has DNA. If it does, I highly, highly doubt that you can clone up a suit with a spiffy tie from a travel toothbrush. And the touch requirement of shapeshifting is explicitly explained now, but that kind of brings up new questions while answering an old one. First, the confusion from the 1961 episode: Sylar picked up Nathan's DNA from the toothbrush, as opposed to simply shapeshifting. But a new question, how would the original shapeshifter obtain Sylar's DNA? Pretty damned risky to get close enough to Sylar, much less touch him for a DNA sample. 2. Micah can warn others about incoming agents just seconds before they bust in, but has no idea about a truck of agents heading his direction? Even though they cut the power, Danko and the team were extremely close to Micah before that happened. I can kind of understand Micah suggesting Sylar becoming Nathan and President, is that really necessary? Can he really trust Sylar being President of the U.S.? 3. Where was Peter when Nathan met Sylar? I suppose it was sloppy script writing to allow the Danko vs Sylar scene. Peter better be off doing something useful while his flyboy brother is going face to face with a superpowered killer. |
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« Reply #6 on: 04/20/09, 11:32:24 PM » |
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finaly sylar becomes sylar again ive been waiting for danko to cross him i hope sylar kills him once and for all....... since every one gets cought at the end and in the previews for next week we see them all face to face with sylar, makes it more likely that sylar will kill danko and asume controll over building 26?  ? who knows.. What was up with hiros powers? theyve never strained him like that before..... Cant wait till next week as usual |
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« Reply #12 on: 04/21/09, 10:33:39 AM » |
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll definitely have to check that out sometime.
And now that I've calmed down over tonight's episode, I think I can give a few things that I didn't like about the episode.
1. Sylar's shape-shifting now includes clothing? Add Sylar's explanation that he can absorb other people's DNA to the confusion, I'm not aware that clothing has DNA. If it does, I highly, highly doubt that you can clone up a suit with a spiffy tie from a travel toothbrush. And the touch requirement of shapeshifting is explicitly explained now, but that kind of brings up new questions while answering an old one. First, the confusion from the 1961 episode: Sylar picked up Nathan's DNA from the toothbrush, as opposed to simply shapeshifting. But a new question, how would the original shapeshifter obtain Sylar's DNA? Pretty damned risky to get close enough to Sylar, much less touch him for a DNA sample.
2. Micah can warn others about incoming agents just seconds before they bust in, but has no idea about a truck of agents heading his direction? Even though they cut the power, Danko and the team were extremely close to Micah before that happened. I can kind of understand Micah suggesting Sylar becoming Nathan and President, is that really necessary? Can he really trust Sylar being President of the U.S.?
3. Where was Peter when Nathan met Sylar? I suppose it was sloppy script writing to allow the Danko vs Sylar scene. Peter better be off doing something useful while his flyboy brother is going face to face with a superpowered killer.
Yeah I was a little irrated about the whole DNA touch requirement thing. Since they never showed the original shape-shifter touch anything of Sylar's, I assumed that he could change just from seeing the target person. Maybe there was some scene that got edited out that dealt with it, but still it was bad writing in my opinion. I just watched the episode with commentary, and they said that Sylar's shape-shifting has advanced to the point that it now effects his clothes as well. But it seems like they did it just because it was more convenient for them. Rather than showing Sylar's Mom, or Nathan, standing there in Sylar's clothes. I don't buy it....seems like a cop-out to me....  And your right, they should have never got that close to Micah. Although it is pretty interesting that Sylar let him live. He even covered for him by impersonating him. I think on some level Sylar still wants to be a decent human being, and it's manifesting by him transforming into his Mother. It's like she's a physical manifestation of whatever's left of his conscience. They totally ripped off Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho" by the way. Crazy guy imaging that he's his dead Mother, been there...done that....  As for Peter; Did you notice that they showed us a montage at the end of what was happening to each of the characters, except for Peter? Hrg, Claire, and Angela getting caught at a road block (which I think is a dream). Mohinder at Coyote Sands. Matt using the Jedi mind trick on those agents. Hiro and Ando wondering what's happening to Hiro. Everyone except Peter. Which means he's the wild card. Just when it looks like Nathan's finally about to die for good, little brother saves the day....  |
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« Reply #14 on: 04/22/09, 09:10:33 AM » |
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I was so scared that Nathan's going to die! But it seems that he didn't...? Yet, anyway. That Sylar's mother thing was just weird. But i still thought that the identity crisis thing was okay. I felt sorry for Sylar - he seemed like a little boy and all  extra credit for being nice to Micah, and for the "i am Sylar" text on the wall. i don't know why, but it was just cool. Hindo was annoying this time. Not because i hate them, but Hiro wasn't fair for Ando - no wonder if A's going to kill him! I wonder what's up with the bleeding... Hopefully it's not anything serious...  Nathan just like's to either be cool and take care of things himself or then he just doesn't trust his family. Whatever, it was pretty stupid - yet predicatble - thing to do. When Sylar raised his hand I was like "Nooo!" I don't want Nathan to die! (How weird...) I try to keep my hopes up and try to convince myself that there's no point to kill him 'cos why would Sylar like to fly? Isn't it just cool enough that he can sneak up behind your back? And now that he's a shapeshifter he can turn into Nathan anytime and anywhere. I just don't understand one thing. After Sylar got up from the floor (after Danko "killed" him), why didn't he kill Danko? Not only did Danko deserve it, but I think that prooves that Danko wouldn't think even twice to kill Sylar. i was like "Kill him, Sylar!" I don't like Danko. At all. Loved it when Nathan said "Get the hell out of my body."  Okay episode, just made me nervous to see would Nathan die or not. I even saw a dream about him Am i crazy or what? |
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