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« on: 04/14/09, 07:05:19 AM »

Am I the only one who thought that this was one of the best episodes since season 1 ended?

Alice was an amazing character.
And I actually had a tear in my eye when Angela said she had stolen socks for her. It was beautiful acting.

I really hope Angela was wrong and we do get to see her again.
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« Reply #1 on: 04/14/09, 07:20:14 AM »

I thought it was the worst episode, ever! At times, almost painful to watch.
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« Reply #2 on: 04/14/09, 07:28:58 AM »

I thought it was the worst episode, ever! At times, almost painful to watch.

How can you think that?
It answered so many questions about the company and it's origins. About Angela's dreams and about Charles' powers. Not to mention bringing in a much needed new and interesting character (Yeah, it's another member of the ever growing Petrelli clan. But we can overlook that due to the cool powers.)

I thought it was great.
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« Reply #3 on: 04/14/09, 08:32:55 AM »

I agree with kpatrik, I thought it sucked as well.... Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: 04/14/09, 08:50:59 AM »

I thought it was the worst episode, ever! At times, almost painful to watch.

How can you think that?
It answered so many questions about the company and it's origins. About Angela's dreams and about Charles' powers. Not to mention bringing in a much needed new and interesting character (Yeah, it's another member of the ever growing Petrelli clan. But we can overlook that due to the cool powers.)

I thought it was great.
Check out the Season 3 episode review for my point by point review of 1961 if you are intrested in my reasoning, or you can just take my word for it that it sucked on an epic scale!
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« Reply #5 on: 04/14/09, 12:57:32 PM »

Am I the only one who thought that this was one of the best episodes since season 1 ended?

Alice was an amazing character.
And I actually had a tear in my eye when Angela said she had stolen socks for her. It was beautiful acting.

I really hope Angela was wrong and we do get to see her again.

I agree with you on everything! Alice is so awesome and I really do hope that we do get to see her again. I thought that I was gonna cry, too, when we got the 'sock reveal'! I loved 1961. It, Cold Snap and some seaon 1 episodes are my faves. Glad you enjoyed it, too Serojay!
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« Reply #6 on: 04/14/09, 04:49:57 PM »

Well i thought it was quite boring. yes, many things where revieled but it wasn't much fun to watch. The only part I liked was then the lightnings kept blasting people across rooms and the ending where Sylar is talking on TV as Nathan.

oh and the sock thing, haha, funny. Now i don't think Angela is a crazy psycho for having a thing for socks.
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« Reply #7 on: 04/14/09, 05:37:59 PM »

it was a good episode.....got answers about the past about the company,  the talk about starting a new company.....As for Alice i liked her powers her bing the first weather controller....And the ending was great seeing sylar as nathan, beating him to the punch at washington. Now the future that they tried so hard to stop looks like its still in motion.... Alot of things goin on in these final episodes a good lead to season 4 cant wait to see where it goes
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« Reply #8 on: 04/15/09, 01:58:25 PM »

  I loved 1961, sure it wasn't filled with a lot of action, but it was an emotional and dramatic episode.  As stated it explained a lot of things that many fans had questions about.  There were times where I honestly did tear up a little, and I'm not one to do that to a movie, let alone a t.v. show.  It was awesome, I don't read reviews of episodes, and I could care less what their opinion is of them.
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« Reply #9 on: 04/15/09, 06:42:29 PM »

i think it was probably my least favorite episode.  it complicated what they've already given us about the origins of the company.  linderman was in vietnam and didn't seem to know that there were any others like him in war buddies and it made it seem like he didn't meet angela until he went to their house after finding arthur's name in linda tavara's book. 

wasn't adam supposed to have helped found the company?  if angela was the founder, than why was she the last person to be in control of the company? and chandra working at that facility in 1961 makes him about 20 years older than i would expect him to be based on season 1
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« Reply #10 on: 04/18/09, 08:58:00 AM »

wasn't adam supposed to have helped found the company?  if angela was the founder, than why was she the last person to be in control of the company? and chandra working at that facility in 1961 makes him about 20 years older than i would expect him to be based on season 1


The group we saw in 1961 are younger teenagers. They could not have possibly started a company on their own. They needed help. It's possible that's when they met Adam and some of the other compnay founders like Kaito Nakamura, Maury Parkman and Carlos Mendez. (Hiro, Matt and Isaac's fathers who were also some of the 12 founding members....)

Also, about Chandra, it's safe to assume that Mohinder is in his mid to late twenties to early thirties. Using that information, we can place his birth around 1978-ish. That makes sense that Chandra was a young doctor just starting in 1961. It gives him about 17 years to do whatever with before he had his son. And remember...Shanti was five years older or something like that. Smiley Hope this helped clarify things for you.

(I based Mohinder's age on his looks and something else....Niki's age. I think she was listed at like 30....)


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« Reply #11 on: 04/18/09, 09:04:35 AM »

Okay! Niki was 32 when she died.

http://heroeswiki.com/Niki_Sanders
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« Reply #12 on: 04/18/09, 09:00:33 PM »

I dont' really know what I thought of the episode. I liked the flashbacks, that was really interesting.
I don't like how at least half the cast is the Petrelli family. It's really time for some new characters that have nothing to do with any of the current characters.
I really did like how the characters seem to be changing now, for the better. Claire's finally realizing that she was a real dumbass earlier on, and she stopped whining so much which is a definite improvement.
Nathan doesn't still think he's right about rounding up people with abilities, and wants to make an attempt to fix it. Not sure how well that's going to work with Sylar around, but whatever...
Peter seems to be getting back to his old self that we saw in season one.

I know this episode was supposed to answer questions about the company, but all it really did was create more questions. From how it was presented in the episode, it seemed like the company wanted to go good and seemed like a not a bad idea. So how did it become corrupt? Where do all the other "founders" fit in?
Pretty much all it showed was that a Angela, Charles, Linderman, and Bob met as teenagers, and that they wanted to start a company so that the government would never attempt to round up people with abilities again.

Overall a good episode though, seems to be starting to set up the next volume, redemption.
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« Reply #13 on: 04/19/09, 06:28:07 AM »

If I had to simply choose if I liked the episode or not, then yes, I liked it alot.  I did notice a few things I thought were a little...out of place, but overall a good episode.  Charles Deveaux only being having persuasion/telepathy was a let down (I hoped he would have a way better, more original power than that).  To counter what others have said of their disapointment of the founding of the company, as others have said, keep in mind the four that escaped the camp are hardly more than children.  Meeting the other founders, Arthur and Adam in particular, is what probably made it easy to justify the wrongs they did as a means to an end. 
Was the guy with the pulse power that protected Alice her and Angela's dad? 
I would have to say that the thing I liked the least was the end, showing Sylar acting as Nathan.  First, Sylar has never touched Nathan as far as I know, making it impossible.  Next, can we just please get through a season with Nathan not being in mortal danger.
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« Reply #14 on: 04/19/09, 07:23:31 AM »

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I would have to say that the thing I liked the least was the end, showing Sylar acting as Nathan.  First, Sylar has never touched Nathan as far as I know, making it impossible.  Next, can we just please get through a season with Nathan not being in mortal danger.

Woah slow down there. I don't think there was ever a touch requirement to Sylar's shape-shifting. You must be thinking of the T1000 from Terminator 2 or shapeshifting from another show/movie. From what's seen on the show so far, the user of the ability can simply look at their target then shape-shift to mimic them.

Unless I'm wrong.
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