Season 3

[LukkiStar]

I have yet to watch the episode because Im on vacation in the UK (stupid NBC.com doesnt work in UK) but I can't   help but read the spoilers.

I just wanted to say that Grim Reapster gave an EXCELLENT analysis of the Petrellis.
Peter is definitely my favorite Petrelli. He's always been my favorite character as well. I just found him the most intriguing character, and being a teenage girl I found him rather attractive.

I think a lot of people just don't like how his character has changed so much. Or that he always seems to end up working for the wrong side. The first two seasons were so centered around Peter that I think people got sick of it being the "Peter saves the day" show.

I adore Peter and I hope that he gets his powers back in full soon. I can't see how he won't, given how so many power restoring plot devices have been set up.
I'm pretty sick of the other Petrellis to be honest, though Alice seems promising as a potential new villain. But they really are a pretty odd bunch and Peter is definitely the most normal and most awesome.

[Isaac Mendez]

I really liked Alice. I hope that her intellegence gets better. She was ALONE for 50 years....and that can screw with someone's mind...lol.

There are some people who think that Angela left Alice, but if you remember, she was at the cafe with the boys and the storm warning came over the TV. They never showed it, but Angela was like "we have to get back!" and they apparently left. When it picked back up to the flasback, it never showed the group return to Coyote Sands, but it did show Angela crying lightly because she thought everyone was dead.

I just figured that they either did not get back inside of the facility due to the weather or just could not find Alice and left....lol.

Hope everyone is doing well. Have a great day!

[serojay]

There are some people who think that Angela left Alice, but if you remember, she was at the cafe with the boys and the storm warning came over the TV. They never showed it, but Angela was like "we have to get back!" and they apparently left. When it picked back up to the flasback, it never showed the group return to Coyote Sands, but it did show Angela crying lightly because she thought everyone was dead.

I just figured that they either did not get back inside of the facility due to the weather or just could not find Alice and left....lol.

I agree.
They didn't just sit and decide not to go back, they must have at least tried, so Angela didn't just forget about Alice in that way.
Also, she never left the camp knowing what was going to happen.
Remember, her dreams were confusing and she probably didn't know it was going to happen that night.

[kpatrik]

Sylar pretending to be Nathan - What, Danko is just going to let Sylar run around and pretend to be a U.S. Senator? After all he's pretty much dedicated to rounding up everyone with an ability. I don't care if Sylar is giving him some help, there's no way, no way that Danko's going to sit back and watch Sylar become President.

Who said anything about the presidency? Danko knows nothing about the future in which Sylar became president. In fact, most of the characters don't know about that future. Danko is a desperate man, and desperate men will always go to desperate measures. Hence why the company is being reborn.

Granted Danko doesn't know about the future where Sylar becomes president. Neither does Sylar for that matter. My problem is why he is allowing Sylar to masquerade as a U.S. Senator at all? That would give Sylar way to much political power, as well as making Sylar his (apparent) boss. I just don't see Danko letting something like that happen.

[kpatrik]

You've been waiting two years on pins and needles to find out why she steals socks? I could be wrong, but it started as a rumor in season one, was completely neglected in season two, and was briefly hinted at (with Angela holding a pair of socks) in this season. There really hasn't been anything to wait for because there really hasn't been any substance to it.

No, I haven't been waiting on "Pins & Needles", but I have been wondering about it for quite some time. And I'm not the only one, judging by the amount of posts on the thread in "Theories & Speculation". (My own theory was completely wrong, sad to say). Although I may be the only one who feels let down it. Does anybody else out there feel cheated by the "Secret of the Socks"?

[kpatrik]

I wish I knew what was going on there. Part of me wants to call it a wig, while another part of me thinks it's just my brain not adjusting to seeing a different hairstyle so suddenly. At this point I'll believe anything, but the idea that a blonde girl has to wear a blonde wig seems a little ridiculous.

Is that a wig? Why does Hayden have to wear a wig anyway?

[kpatrik]

Nothing but the Flying Petrelli's for the whole show? Really?

Noah/Nathan, Noah/Nathan/Claire, Claire/Angela, Noah/Mohinder, Peter/Mohinder, Angela/Alice, Noah/Peter/Nathan/Angela/Claire. There were plenty of non-Petrelli Bros. moments. And that's just ignoring all the flashbacks, which this episode was based off of.

What I meant was that this was an episode that featured mainly Petrelli characters, whom I don't care for that much (obviously). And speaking of Mohinder, exactly how did he get to Coyote Sands so quickly? When they started digging up bodies it showed Mohinder is his apartment in New York, pinning thread into a map. Then during the sand storm he's dragging Noah into one of the huts. Even if he jumped the red-eye down, he couldn't have gotten there that fast. If they even have a red-eye to Coyote Sands, NM.

[kpatrik]

And lets talk about that massacre - Alice is afraid to get a shot from Doctor Suresh, so she freaks out, Dr. Suresh freaks out and gives her a slap, her dad(?) freaks out and "pushes" Dr. Suresh, and then the trigger-happy guards freak out and open up with automatic weapons on unarmed civilians. So improbable a chain of events that it would make me laugh if I wasn't so disgusted. Next time maybe they should assign guards who aren't quite so psychotic.

Unarmed civillians? I don't mean to sound rude, but you have seen the rest of this volume, correct? The actual people working for the government are practically begging these people with abilities to do something to give them a reason to shoot. They're not truly "unarmed," and that scares normal people. So of course the reaction from the guards will be to shoot. Also, considering some of the despicable acts my own country has done in recent years (to innocent bi-standards no less), I find this to be highly believable.

Let me be clear, "Unarmed" is a term that means something very specific to soldiers. If you are not actually holding a weapon, you are unarmed. If you are not a soldier, you are a civilian. I don't care if you can shoot lighting bolts out of your eyes, if you are not holding a weapon and are not a soldier, you are a unarmed civilian. And most soldiers will not shoot unarmed civilians, even if ordered to. I know this because I am a veteran of the first Gulf War (that's right, I'm that old!). And it actually offends me a little when they portray soldiers (especially U.S. Soldiers) in such a manner. You are right, there have been atrocities committed by the armed forces over the years, but I never committed any. Neither did anyone I know. And frankly, while I condemn the actions of those involved in any atrocity, I'm insulted both by the writers, in portraying soldiers in such a mean and callous manner, and also by your comments.

[DandDfan1207]

Let me be clear, "Unarmed" is a term that means something very specific to soldiers. If you are not actually holding a weapon, you are unarmed. If you are not a soldier, you are a civilian. I don't care if you can shoot lighting bolts out of your eyes, if you are not holding a weapon and are not a soldier, you are a unarmed civilian. And most soldiers will not shoot unarmed civilians, even if ordered to. I know this because I am a veteran of the first Gulf War (that's right, I'm that old!). And it actually offends me a little when they portray soldiers (especially U.S. Soldiers) in such a manner. You are right, there have been atrocities committed by the armed forces over the years, but I never committed any. Neither did anyone I know. And frankly, while I condemn the actions of those involved in any atrocity, I'm insulted both by the writers, in portraying soldiers in such a mean and callous manner, and also by your comments.

Are you kidding me?   I know for a FACT that noone in there right mind would consider Jet Lee, or Jackie Chan to be unarmed...regardless of weather they had anything in there hands... Now you want me to belive that you would think...lets take some random heros...Ando (Throw lighting ...might as well have a gun)...Sylar (Can take down a team of 12 fully armed milatary men), or Matt (Who can make you shoot yourself) unarmed? They are 100 times more dangerus then some guy with a pistol.

[kpatrik]

Let me be clear, "Unarmed" is a term that means something very specific to soldiers. If you are not actually holding a weapon, you are unarmed. If you are not a soldier, you are a civilian. I don't care if you can shoot lighting bolts out of your eyes, if you are not holding a weapon and are not a soldier, you are a unarmed civilian. And most soldiers will not shoot unarmed civilians, even if ordered to. I know this because I am a veteran of the first Gulf War (that's right, I'm that old!). And it actually offends me a little when they portray soldiers (especially U.S. Soldiers) in such a manner. You are right, there have been atrocities committed by the armed forces over the years, but I never committed any. Neither did anyone I know. And frankly, while I condemn the actions of those involved in any atrocity, I'm insulted both by the writers, in portraying soldiers in such a mean and callous manner, and also by your comments.

Are you kidding me?   I know for a FACT that noone in there right mind would consider Jet Lee, or Jackie Chan to be unarmed...regardless of weather they had anything in there hands... Now you want me to belive that you would think...lets take some random heros...Ando (Throw lighting ...might as well have a gun)...Sylar (Can take down a team of 12 fully armed milatary men), or Matt (Who can make you shoot yourself) unarmed? They are 100 times more dangerus then some guy with a pistol.

Well yes, I would consider Jet Lee, or Jackie Chan to be unarmed. Dangerous but unarmed. And the solders had rifles, not just pistols. I'm not saying that if someone threw lighting at them they wouldn't return fire. They would. But they wouldn't stalk around the Camp killing everyone (Men, Women & Children) they could find just because one or two people attacked them. Seriously, am I the only one who was bothered by the way the soldiers were portrayed?

[Isaac Mendez]

Well, kpatrik, I feel mixed about it after you brought up your points.

My family is full of soldiers. (Dad, uncle, cousins....etc) I think that they were portrayed badly, but I really liked "1961" because of Alice.

ALTHOUGH, I see why they attacked. Mr. Shaw zapped Suresh and the soldiers were probably given execute orders if anyone without powers was attacked. (It makes sense.)

By the way, kpatrik, thank you for serving our country.

[DandDfan1207]

Well yes, I would consider Jet Lee, or Jackie Chan to be unarmed. Dangerous but unarmed.

so some one dangerus isn't threat enough if attacking???

And the solders had rifles, not just pistols.

so if you have a rifle and I have  apistol you would not shoot back if I shoot at you??

I'm not saying that if someone threw lighting at them they wouldn't return fire. They would. But they wouldn't stalk around the Camp killing everyone (Men, Women & Children) they could find just because one or two people attacked them.

Who said they did that, it looked to me like a full fledged riot broke out...some people with powers, others with guns...who started it stoped mattering when person A saw gun fire and responded, then person Bsaw people with powers fighting and responded...the whole place was a powder keg...the spark was the slap

Seriously, am I the only one who was bothered by the way the soldiers were portrayed?

Seriously do you think that every soldier is a good guy? Or that having a uniform makes you right? It isn NOt the whole army being villfied, it is a small group of soldiers who were already in dicey terrtory (Holding civilans under armed gaurds) who panickted