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« on: 02/09/09, 06:22:28 AM »

Talk about episode 3x15 "Trust and Blood" here! Grin
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« Reply #1 on: 02/09/09, 08:15:56 AM »

I cannot wait! Hope it's a good one! Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: 02/09/09, 09:05:57 PM »

Pretty good episode.

However, there are two things i am majorly peeved about.

One is the fact that Peter can only hold one ability at a time now.
I guess my hope to see a sylar and him showdown is gone.

And also that they killed the one new character i liked, Daphne.

If i were Peter, when he was holding Nathan with guns pointed at his head, i would have flown up with Nathan in my arms and...dropped him. Would he drop his cover and fly away or would he let himself fall? I could see where doing that could be bad, i think that if Peter or someone could convince Nathan what he's doing is wrong (Which is highly unlikely), then he would be the only one stop all of what he started.

Im not sure what HRG's intentions are, but he's really pissing me off trying to play the good guy bad guy card again.

Whos this new rebel thats texting Claire?

Ha, i love that Sylars takin on a sidekick.

And the heroes are all joining forces to kick Nathans ass =]

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« Reply #3 on: 02/09/09, 09:34:01 PM »

^I think Peter will be able to hold multiple abilities again once Ando supercharged him. I was do pumped about Ando having an ability, and they're not even using it now.

I was mad about Daphne too. I was really starting to like her. Matt's going to be really mad and probably turn all evil too lol. Speaking of Matt, it's really interesting that he's expanding his powers. Making the people shoot each other with the mind control be the precognitive painting. If it keeps going at this rate, he'll end up more powerful than Sylar soon.

I honestly don't think Peter would have the guts to kill Nathan. He's too much of a wimp. Don't get me wrong, Peters absolutely my favorite character, but he NEVER does anything badass. Unless it's future him, but that doesn't really count. 

The person testing Claire is amusing...that could get interesting.

I like Sylar's sidekick too. It's a pretty cool power, and it's nice to see more young people on the show. Hope be doesn't meet a tragic end, Sylar style, though.
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« Reply #4 on: 02/10/09, 12:32:59 AM »

I hope that Daphne's not dead. I like her, too.

I hope Hiro get;s his powers back and I hope peter's get better.

I feel really bad for Matt. I think that Daphne's not dead. It looked like she just got hsot in the arm.
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« Reply #5 on: 02/10/09, 10:34:55 AM »

Claire shows once again how stupid she is. "You can't get away with this" - come on, this is some kind of a secret service/military, they can get away with almost anything, especially with the death of a couple of "prisoners".
And when she gets a text message from a "rebel" - she trusts them just like that, it could be anybody, even her father (either of them). Come on, you're not an average cheerleader anymore, two and a half seasons must teach you something Smiley I think when you're dealing with a secret operations where people are kidnapped without a trial - you can't get too paranoid, especially when you were caught twice and almost got killed.
Poor Daphne, they should steal her body from the military and inject her with Claire's blood (people almost never really die in Heroes Smiley)
I think Matt can become a real problem for everyone now, this is what Nathan should be fearing of. When Matt is strong enough, he can become virtually unstoppable.
Sylar proved to be the smartest again, being able to get a sidekick. I was surprised when that kid killed the agent, I was suspecting that the guy has a power, but I thought he will use it against Sylar, because its kind of obvious (even for that short period when they saw Sylar in their house) that Sylar is a psycopath and that he cannot be trusted at all. On the other hand, at least the boy and his mom didn't get hurt (physically), so it is quite an achievment.
Peter became a leader, that's a good twist. IMHO he is the best leader material from all of the good guys, at last the good guys are uniting. Its now a brother vs brother, and that's brilliant.
Nathan's authority becomes fragile, both the military guy and the HRG don't listen to him and they are both disappointed - this can turn into a big "ouch" when Nathan can be left without his army but with many superpeople being after him.
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« Reply #6 on: 02/10/09, 10:49:26 AM »

Pretty good episode.

However, there are two things i am majorly peeved about.

One is the fact that Peter can only hold one ability at a time now.
I guess my hope to see a sylar and him showdown is gone.

And also that they killed the one new character i liked, Daphne.

If i were Peter, when he was holding Nathan with guns pointed at his head, i would have flown up with Nathan in my arms and...dropped him. Would he drop his cover and fly away or would he let himself fall? I could see where doing that could be bad, i think that if Peter or someone could convince Nathan what he's doing is wrong (Which is highly unlikely), then he would be the only one stop all of what he started.

Im not sure what HRG's intentions are, but he's really pissing me off trying to play the good guy bad guy card again.

Whos this new rebel thats texting Claire?

Ha, i love that Sylars takin on a sidekick.

And the heroes are all joining forces to kick Nathans ass =]

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Yeah I'm peeved too. But I think that Peter's lack of power retention will probably turn out to be temporary. As I said after last episode, his power's changed. He no longer absorbs through empathy. So he probably has to relearn how to access the abilities he absorbs all over again. 

At least it better be temporary, or their probably going to lose me as a fan.

As for Sylar's new side-kick, who wants to bet that he turns out to be his little brother. Sylar's right, it's a little too coincidental that he was living that close to his father; and the kid claims to know where he is.

On top of that he seems to be just as much a sociopath as Sylar.... Wink
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« Reply #7 on: 02/10/09, 11:06:59 AM »

Luke is soooo cool! Awsome! Just when I pretty much stopped liking Claire for good, this other teenhero - or teenvillain, actually - comes over! And being Sylar's own Robin is a absolute plus. Great guy, good job bringing this kind of charter in.

Peter...what can you say about him? When he pointed that gun on Nathan head I was secretly thinking "shoot him, shoot him", although that would make the show boring. I know, i hate Nathan, but i can't lose him. I agree with PhantomLord, the battle of brothers and Peter becoming the leader...yes!

I keep hoping that Daphne's not dead. When Matt showed that pic of Daphne i was like "NOOOO!" She just can't die. never. Ever. They haven't killed anyone for a thousand years, they've only "killed" people. But if they really have to kill someone, why does it have to be Daphne? WHY?  Cry

Although, there's one good thing in Daphne's death; matt would go bad. That would be so cool. When he made those guys shoot each other...Go Parkman!

I loved the episode! It feels like something like this hasn't happened for a long time. Like... it sort of had everything needed; action, tight situations, but also these calm moments when you don't have to watch your back all the time. But even though i can see it coming, i kep my thumbs up for one thing - plese, don't let Luke to be Sylar's brother. Although i believe that he is. In a way it would be nice, but i guess that Sylar family problems are big enough. But great, Luke rocks, and i think that Heroes is climbing back to the top again!
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« Reply #8 on: 02/10/09, 09:08:50 PM »

I didn't like the flashbacky kind of way they told this story, interwoven with shots of Nathan explaining himself over the phone two days after the episode's events. It's not a style Heroes has ever used, and it wasn't strong enough to make this a cool "gimmick" episode. It just felt strange.

Agh! I recognize Luke! He looks a little older, but is still definitely playing a high schooler. Now, this next sentence is going to contain a horrible, embarrassing admission: I recognize the actor, Dan Byrd, from the movie A Cinderella Story, also starring Chad Michael Murray and Hilary Duff. I know, I know, please forgive me... It's not like I own it on DVD or anything!

Okay, that was a lie, I do own it on DVD. But I own a lot of movies on DVD. Can we move on?

I very much prefer this Sylar to the toothless version we saw in Volume Three. I'm just sorry we had to go though that little hiccup in his character to get to this.

I'm loving the idea of Peter only being able to hold on to one power at a time right now. Seems much more fair, and makes it much easier for the band of good guys to require a nice group effort, rather than the rest of them standing back and picking their noses while Peter kicks butt with every single one of their absorbed abilities. But... is this because he lost his original power and had to be injected to gain a new one (this one)? Or is this some kind of superhero impotence because he's doubting things these days?

I'm sick of HRG claiming his always-for-sale allegiance is just him "protecting this family". What family? We haven't seen Sandra or Lyle in months, and I'm betting neither have Claire and HRG. Besides, Claire is all set to head off to a fancy college--go home to your "normal" wife and son, dude! Spend some quality time!

Luke and his mother's storyline was awesome. Really the only redeeming part of the episode. I loved Dan, and the way Sylar attempted to show similarities between himself and the boy: "Father abandoned you and mother's a drone--I know that rage all too well, Luke. And I know you'd like nothing better than to see her blood all over the living room floor..." Hmm, projecting much, Mr. Mom-Killer? We all remember the maternal-blood finger-painting escapade... And the wicked little flash of a smirk Luke gave when he said, "you should see what happens around pace-makers," makes me think this storyline could be awesome. Luke's Pyro to Sylar's Magneto could be a cute thing to watch.

So... Daphne's dead? Her death was just thrown away. What happened to the baby-with-Matt future? Not that I'm complaining, she was getting annoying; so was Matt when he was around her. And we have a band of brothers (nice collection of cute guys you got around that picnic table), lead by Peter, ready to oppose and bring down an unfair government. At least Hiro, Ando, and Peter are all still in character from the first season. They've all had nice progressions. Mohinder is growing on me again, and Matt... Matt used to be one of my favorites, but I'm so bugged at his expando-power right now that... Matt, I think we need a break. I'm sorry.

Bits and Pieces:

    * Lemme guess: the plane the heroes crashed in was one of the Oceanic fleet?
    * Milo Ventimiglia is a pretty dorky runner. (Who are cool runners, you ask? Will Smith, Tom Cruise, and Daniel Craig.)
    * Funny: Hiro's "Rednecks make better lovers" t-shirt. Glad he chose something else, though. Smiley
    * How, exactly, does one run from Japan to Arkansas? Can she run over top of water?
    * Funny Claire line: "...and everyone I know disappears. Except for Senator Skyboy here, because he's got everything under control..."
    * Hee hee. HRG is so much taller than Nathan! And how is the Hunter even shorter?
    * "You can trust me, Tracy"? Are you kidding me, Nathan? Who in the world believes you when you say things like that these days?
    * Funny Sylar line: "And I let you live. Which is... kind of a big deal for me."
    * Am I the only one who immediately just assumed "Rebel" was Peter?  It didn't occur to me it could be anyone else until I read the rest of your comments...

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« Reply #9 on: 02/10/09, 11:22:15 PM »

Am I the only one who immediately just assumed "Rebel" was Peter?  It didn't occur to me it could be anyone else until I read the rest of your comments...
You're not the only one, I think Claire also thinks so Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: 02/11/09, 12:17:45 AM »

Ok where to start...

           First I Loved sylar getting to be a grade A villian again, in seasoon 1 I thought he was the most evil person in the world, last season I felt like he was almost normal...good to see the villian back

           Second I have a new must have fight (right after sylar V Peter 2 hour special with fx budgit of a full movie) I want to see HRG V Hunter...

          Third It is about time we see what I recall interview talking abou back in season 1...aka Peter growing into the leader of this group...about time

          Fourth the friend texting Clair I have a few thoughts on...first the txs came too quick...second Unkonwn makes me think computer savy... My first thought was Wireless from season 1...then I jumped to Micha...then I had my best idea...BOTH...   Nathan has to have sent some red flags up (even though the main cast were all dumb) when he talked on TV about this threat...Maybe Wireless put 2 and 2 togather and again put her own team togather...This would be a great way to bring Micha and St. Joan back, along with some new hero's....Un underground restance that has been waiting and watching for the last month
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« Reply #11 on: 02/11/09, 08:27:00 AM »

I thought this was the best episode in a long, long time. Since Season 1 in fact.
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« Reply #12 on: 02/11/09, 11:11:57 AM »

A pretty good episode.
At least, one of the best in a while.

I don't think Daphne is dead as I'm sure I read an interview she did where she said she was filming 3x19.
Chances are, when Claire jumped out to take the bullets, some of her blood splattered onto Daphne and revived her. Everyone was to busy running away to notice her regenerate.

My guess for Claire's text message is that it came from Claude. (I'm hoping)
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« Reply #13 on: 02/11/09, 01:31:00 PM »

Am I the only one who immediately just assumed "Rebel" was Peter?  It didn't occur to me it could be anyone else until I read the rest of your comments...
You're not the only one, I think Claire also thinks so Smiley


I thought so, too. But i am wondering if thea writers put that there to thorw ius off.
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« Reply #14 on: 02/11/09, 02:58:35 PM »


My guess for Claire's text message is that it came from Claude. (I'm hoping)

Claude!  YES.

Well, no, I don't think so, but that WOULD be awesome.  Smiley  Bring back Claude/Doctor 9/Cobra Commander!

Hmm... the more I think about it, the more I realize I liked the storyline a lot for this episode, I'm just unimpressed with the individual characterizations for a lot of the established leads.  And really, just three: Matt, Nathan, and HRG.  Some explanation would be greatly appreciated for their current states, and then I'll be fine.  I don't mind characters changing as long as the switch can be accounted for. 

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