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« on: 12/16/08, 06:44:16 AM »

Did u see the end of Duel? Nathan betrayed the heroes. I personally hate him for it now. What do u guys think of him?
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« Reply #1 on: 12/18/08, 11:00:58 AM »

Just when i started to trust him... Cry
Just when i started to like him... Cry

WHY ??!!!!!!

I could say that i hate him, but i just try to keep wathcing S1 finale to remember that he - at least HAS - been a good guy.

He's reaction to Peter's rescue what horrible! He was really angry for being saved! If someone like Peter would save me from a burning building i would be thankful!

NATHAN.....!!!!!!!! WHY ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

*heart breaking*  Cry

But i think that Adrian's doing a good job. Nathan's just the guy you can't trust... or can you... or can't you... Undecided 

MAKE HIM PAY, PETER!  Grin     But yeah, i don't think that i like him that much anymore....
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« Reply #2 on: 12/18/08, 03:28:31 PM »

Nathan knows the truth.  People like Tracy are too dangerous.  He saw first hand the destruction she and Knox and Flint are capable of, and they must be contained.  That's why he wanted the army to help, and that's why he's gone to the president.  There are so many rogues out there causing havoc, and totally outside the law.  It's time the government took control again and stopped vigilante justice, and restored Homeland Security.

Go Nathan!
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« Reply #3 on: 12/18/08, 10:30:13 PM »

yeah, but, why was Hiro's picture in one of the pictures Nathan was showing the president
Hiro isn't dangerous
and for all we know he hasn't gotten his powers back
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« Reply #4 on: 12/19/08, 04:39:57 AM »

yeah, but, why was Hiro's picture in one of the pictures Nathan was showing the president
Hiro isn't dangerous
and for all we know he hasn't gotten his powers back

Nathan doesn't know Hiro is powerless, and someone with Hiro's power would be likely one of the most, if not, the most dangerous one.
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« Reply #5 on: 12/19/08, 08:50:36 AM »

Nathan doesn't know Hiro is powerless, and someone with Hiro's power would be likely one of the most, if not, the most dangerous one.

or would be if he wasn't Hiro.  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: 12/19/08, 09:28:51 AM »

it was stating two points.
(1) Hiro doesn't have powers
(2) Even if he did, he isn't a threat. He's not one of the bad guys.
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« Reply #7 on: 12/19/08, 09:56:35 AM »



or would be if he wasn't Hiro.  Cheesy
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Hahahahhahahahaha absolutely!



 
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« Reply #8 on: 12/19/08, 09:58:21 AM »

it was stating two points.
(1) Hiro doesn't have powers
(2) Even if he did, he isn't a threat. He's not one of the bad guys.

I understand your point of view but... About Hiro not being one of the bad guys. Well, sure he is a good guy, harmless huh? put him under the right circumstances, let's say: to stop other people from being hunted, baged and taged, he could become something else. And believe me, you don't wanna risk that with a guy that can travel in time and freeze time.
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« Reply #9 on: 12/19/08, 04:36:37 PM »

ok, i respect that point. He could go and change everything Nathan's acomplished(if he were to get his power back)
but, this morning, i was watching the episode again and realized Micah's picture came out as well.
How is he dangerous? he's just a kid.
 
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« Reply #10 on: 12/19/08, 11:19:27 PM »

I don't think its about whether they are dangerous or not. Its about power. Nathan rounds everyone up and he's got all the power. The power with the government, the power to use those people as weapons. Think about how Linderman used Micah. Micah himself is not dangerous but he can be used in a dangerous fashion.
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« Reply #11 on: 12/20/08, 07:44:13 AM »

Exactly!

It not about the vessel (the person) but about the abilities! They are dangerous. The same way Linderman used a Micah to rig a election, some one could use Micah again to to something terrible (online banking services, stock market, nuclear weapons, who knows).

Man, I can almost agree wiht Nathan... Almost...   
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« Reply #12 on: 12/20/08, 04:31:58 PM »

and that makes it right for him to lock up a little kid?

The more i think about it, the more i disagree with him. I agree he wants to protect the world but he's over exaggerating. Why doesn't he lock himself up then? He has a power. He could probably be dangerous too.
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« Reply #13 on: 12/20/08, 05:05:26 PM »

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Why doesn't he lock himself up then? He has a power. He could probably be dangerous too.

That's a good one! if would want to, he could just go to steal something from a store, and fly away.

If someone would say this to him, he'd probably answer something like: "I'm not the type of man who does that", or something, but if he would say something like that, what would be the point to lock up someone like Micah? i mean, c'mon! Micah!

The only time Micah used his powers for something extremly bad was when Linderman forced him to do it. Come to think of it, the only thing Nathan can use as an excuse is "but what if...", which doesn't really come in handy when he has powers too...

But no, locking them up is wrong! Just so wrong! If he really is going to lock 'em up, all he gets is hate towards himself, and a some sort of prison break and a revolution of super humans.
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« Reply #14 on: 12/26/08, 07:36:37 AM »

the issue at hand, is one of the oldest plots in "hero mithology": doing something you know it's wrong in the name of the greater good.

Do you guy read comic books? have you read Marvel's Civil War? About Capitain America vs. Iron Man. what we will have in heroes is quite similar. but in my opinion it will be Peter vs. Nathan.

We all know Nathan acts are wrong and evil but it could save millions of lives. because the NY explosion, the Shanti virus, the world exploding, it was all super powered people's doing, so in he's mind he IS saving the world.

That's why I said I almost agree with him... it could cause the greater good, but at the cost of evil doing, and it's not worth this cost... evil is no good hehehehe


I think volume 4 has a great potencial for a plot with real depth.
 

 
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